Day 31 - Final Tribal Council

[Jeff Probst]

Up next, it's Liliana:

Let me start this speech with some good news, and some bad news.

Good news first: you 3 weren't the 3 people at the very bottom of my ranking when I first arrived at Ponderosa.

Bad news: only Jessica was beneath you.

Honestly, this is exactly what I hoped wouldn't happen. How fucking boring is a final tribal council with A) A person who was always getting drunk instead of attending challenges, B) A person who refused to do any sort of game talk with me and when I tried to force them to, would blatantly and obviously lie and was Jessicas cultist follower or C) A person who knows so little about the game they've only watched 3 seasons and wanted to tell a person I was planning to blindside (sorry flicka) that i was going to blindside them. This is a worst case scenario, and right about now i am wishing I hadn't voted out Anthony and instead volunteered to be voted out so I wouldn't have to vote for one of you 3 to win an imaginary million dollars.

I'll make this simpler for myself. One person who is not getting my vote? Rocky. Sorry but you're a goat, plain and simple. What I've deduced from my discussions with you are you are probably the worst player in this game and have no business stealing that seat from someone who deserved to sit there. Candice, Cass, hell even Jess! At least they all played the game.

So Penner, or Stacy? Penner was a person who missed tribal councils and challenges, and only talked to me in lies. Stacy wouldn't lie to me, because she never talked to me in the first place. So I'm in a bit of a conundrum here. Vote for the backstabber who doesn't deserve that seat (but deserves it a little more than rocky)? Or the girl that has been a pawn of Jessicas, Nates, and Cass, and refused to talk anything with me? None of you made any big moves, none of you attempted to venture outside of your comfort zone, and in the end, you both got here. Survivor is truly a flawed game.

Give me a detailed answer on why you decided to vote me out. If you didn't vote for me, then why didn't you vote for me?

[Rocky]

Freebie? sweet, I can go back and work on Nate's to Q #3

[Rocky]

OH MAN I wanna respond to lil's answer haha, is that allowed if she doesn't ask me a question?

[Jeff Probst]

OH MAN I wanna respond to lil's answer haha, is that allowed if she doesn't ask me a question?

Sure

[Penner]

Let me start this speech with some good news, and some bad news.

Good news first: you 3 weren't the 3 people at the very bottom of my ranking when I first arrived at Ponderosa.

Bad news: only Jessica was beneath you.

Honestly, this is exactly what I hoped wouldn't happen. How fucking boring is a final tribal council with A) A person who was always getting drunk instead of attending challenges, B) A person who refused to do any sort of game talk with me and when I tried to force them to, would blatantly and obviously lie and was Jessicas cultist follower or C) A person who knows so little about the game they've only watched 3 seasons and wanted to tell a person I was planning to blindside (sorry flicka) that i was going to blindside them. This is a worst case scenario, and right about now i am wishing I hadn't voted out Anthony and instead volunteered to be voted out so I wouldn't have to vote for one of you 3 to win an imaginary million dollars.

I'll make this simpler for myself. One person who is not getting my vote? Rocky. Sorry but you're a goat, plain and simple. What I've deduced from my discussions with you are you are probably the worst player in this game and have no business stealing that seat from someone who deserved to sit there. Candice, Cass, hell even Jess! At least they all played the game.

So Penner, or Stacy? Penner was a person who missed tribal councils and challenges, and only talked to me in lies. Stacy wouldn't lie to me, because she never talked to me in the first place. So I'm in a bit of a conundrum here. Vote for the backstabber who doesn't deserve that seat (but deserves it a little more than rocky)? Or the girl that has been a pawn of Jessicas, Nates, and Cass, and refused to talk anything with me? None of you made any big moves, none of you attempted to venture outside of your comfort zone, and in the end, you both got here. Survivor is truly a flawed game.

Give me a detailed answer on why you decided to vote me out. If you didn't vote for me, then why didn't you vote for me?

The answer to your question is very simple - I didn't want to vote myself into a final five of you, Rocky, Rebecca and Candice because Candice and I would be straight out the door in quick succession. Not everything I told you was a lie - the alliance and 5 was the route I wanted to take to the finals, except I obviously couldn't take all three of you; one person needed to go before we got to final five. Unfortunately I had bonded with you the least so it was you who got the votes.

My plan was to have Rebecca and Rocky sitting beside me, until Rebecca ended up having to leave the game. I had to switch things up then and slot Stacy in, because I didn't believe Stacy had really done anything all game.

I don't understand how you can say I didn't venture out of my comfort zone - I got to the merge with only two allies left from Hestur and had to stay in the middle, playing both sides, without getting voted out all the way to the end.

I also take a bit of an issue with the idea that I was "always getting drunk instead of attending challenges" - there was one evening where I had actual plans and couldn't attend a challenge. This isn't what the game is about anyway; Survivor is a 24/7 game and if you're relying on your performance at challenges and tribal to win the game, you're doing something wrong. I've put in an insane level of effort into this game, even if it wasn't apparent, considering the time zone (once again it's 3.30am and I have work in the morning); I was talking to people 24/7 and even recording video confessionals which I'm sure you'll see once the game is over.

What sort of big moves did you want to see? Blindsiding Jessica, Nate, voting out Candice? Building an alliance with the two people on the outs so that I'd have a majority and control when I needed it, not when everyone was voting out big threats at the merge? If you have an issue with someone lying in Survivor, I don't know what I can say to that. It would be very, very hard to be frank and open and honest with everyone and get anywhere close to the merge.

If I've made it to FTC with a bunch of people at the bottom of your ranking - I guess I've done something right?

[Jeff Probst]

Next up, everyone's favorite punching bag and immunity queen:

Jessica!

[Jessica]

Y'all are the perfect jury because absolutely nothing is set in stone. Everything comes down to how you answer the questions and how we jury members decide to judge the fuck out of you. Don't think I'm just going to give my vote to Stacy just because we were allies, because I'm not here to do this petty shit. I want the best player to win, so I want the best answers.

Stacy: You have been an incredible girl in this game and you have been my #2 in every move I've made. I'm proud to see you here at the end. You better have some amazing answers for me.
Penner: You seemed inactive at first, but I have warmed up to your strategy and abilities. I'm hoping you truly are the social player you have claimed to be. Winning the final IC did at least prove you weren't just dragged along. I'm excited.
Rocky: Hey "foe" you suck. Jk, you've played a distinctly different game and I'm hoping that the surprises don't end here. I want to see who the real Rocky is and how he's been playing this game.

STACY:
If you could start this game over, all players constant, would you employ a different strategy? What would it be and why?

PENNER:
If you had to pick from the Survivor Zoology, which animal would you be and why? Zoology being:

The Fox: Sets themselves up as the person to beat.
The Bear: The "Loyal Opposition." A strong opponent chosen by the Fox because of their loyalty.
The Goat: A person who cannot win who is selected as an easy beat by the Fox and the Bear. The Goat's loyalty is insured by a guarantee of 2nd or 3rd place.
The Bunny: A person selected because of their weakness to lose at the F4. The Bunny is also selected because of their general pleasantness.

ROCKY:
Did you play the game how you wanted to play it? If not, how would you change it? If so, what could have been done differently...unless you consider how you played the absolute correct choice. I mean, you made the final 3 so it clearly wasn't a terrible choice.

Also fuck everyone I should be Final 3. Jk. Except not, fuck you.

[Rocky]

AIGHT LIL I KNOW YOU DONT LIKE TO HEAR ME TALK BUT IMMA EXPLAIN MYSELF REGARDLESS CAUSE WHAT DO I HAVE TO LOSE RIGHT? Bolded shit is Lil, not bolded shit is me.

Honestly, this is exactly what I hoped wouldn't happen. How fucking boring is a final tribal council with A) A person who was always getting drunk instead of attending challenges, B) A person who refused to do any sort of game talk with me and when I tried to force them to, would blatantly and obviously lie and was Jessicas cultist follower or C) A person who knows so little about the game they've only watched 3 seasons and wanted to tell a person I was planning to blindside (sorry flicka) that i was going to blindside them. This is a worst case scenario, and right about now i am wishing I hadn't voted out Anthony and instead volunteered to be voted out so I wouldn't have to vote for one of you 3 to win an imaginary million dollars.
You honestly wanted Rebecca over myself, Penner, and Stacy? I THINK YOUR LIEING GIRL, DONT CAUSE A RUCKUS FOR THE LIMELIGHT!!!!! Dont get me wrong Rebecca is a doll but like, cmon. If you consider me a goat more then her then I think you're lookin at me through a pair of drunk goggles.

I'll make this simpler for myself. One person who is not getting my vote? Rocky. Sorry but you're a goat, plain and simple. What I've deduced from my discussions with you are you are probably the worst player in this game and have no business stealing that seat from someone who deserved to sit there. Candice, Cass, hell even Jess! At least they all played the game.

I played the game sister, just cause I didn't play it with you doesn't mean your interpretation is correct. I ditched your ass when Flicka was the vote at final 11. I determined I'd be MUCH more better off without you at that point, cause... look at what was happening. I hustled my way and shuffled my feet away from you, played my own game, and didn't fight for you AT ALL when Candice came to me at final 8 and told me you were the vote that night.

Second of all, I clearly did play the game. I organized GOAT's, the alliance that had all the power for a grand total of 1 round, and guided Nate towards Penner over Stacy BECAUSE Stacy told me she would never flip. WHy did she tell me this? CAUSE I WAS FUCKING PLAYING THE GAME SISTER! I wasn't sucking my thumb and rocky-ing in my crib. I was trying to do the most I could do and accomplish all I could possibly accomplish in the shitty place I was in at the time.

There's a reason why you were gunned for before I was, and why even REBECCA was gunned for before I was at final 7. I played the game, found people to trust me, and rolled as far as I could with it. Was it a goat's strategy? I dont think so, but I'm not a juror, and I'm also a bias opinion.

[Penner]

PENNER:
If you had to pick from the Survivor Zoology, which animal would you be and why? Zoology being:

The Fox: Sets themselves up as the person to beat.
The Bear: The "Loyal Opposition." A strong opponent chosen by the Fox because of their loyalty.
The Goat: A person who cannot win who is selected as an easy beat by the Fox and the Bear. The Goat's loyalty is insured by a guarantee of 2nd or 3rd place.
The Bunny: A person selected because of their weakness to lose at the F4. The Bunny is also selected because of their general pleasantness.

Huh, this is a tough one. I don't know how well I fit into any of these. I'd like to say that I've been different animals at different times. I know in the pre-merge, I was the fox. I was voted #1 in my tribe, trusted by everyone, leader in a bunch of challenges and very visible to the other tribe. Once we hit the merge, I was trying to be the bunny and lay low, but ultimately overshot and became seen as the goat. It's the number one mistake I've made in this game BY FAR even if it's what helped me to survive the spotlight at the beginning.

The Bear - I don't understand your definition (do you mean strong ally?). If it's ally, then that's where I fit for the most part. I worked with Candice very closely (similar to you and Stacy) but I'd argue that I had much more strategic control in the late stages of the game than Stacy can claim. So a somewhat foxy bear, if you'll allow me.

So to answer your question: everything at some point or another. I know it seems like a cop-out but the way I played the game changed greatly at different stages; you'll see that's consistent with what I said in my opening statement about adapting rather than controlling.

[Rocky]

and to add to my "response" to Lil, if I was a goat, name my shephard?

Nate? The person who relied on ME and MY help to make a move TOGETHER and oust Jessica.
Penner? The person whose name I would've written down at final four if I could've.
Stacy? The person I never talked strategy with either?
You? You didn't tell me to do SHIT!!

A goat with no shephard is a completely new way to define me, and kind of defeats any idea that I was just rolling my thumbs and letting the waves crash upon my back as I got a pimping sun tan.

[Rocky]

Apologies if I seem brash, I was just trying to define my game is all.

AIGHT now time to respond to Jessica, haha. SORRY for my holdup!

[Penner]

Rocky - why would you have voted me out at final four? And Stacy, to reference something you said earlier, why didn't anyone even discuss voting you out at final four?

[Rocky]

Rocky - why would you have voted me out at final four? And Stacy, to reference something you said earlier, why didn't anyone even discuss voting you out at final four?

Stacy and I chatted about ousting you at final 4 if Candice was immune. I should probably rephrase it, you weren't GONE if you didn't win immunity, but I was talking strategy with other people in this game without you being involved in it. My point in bringing it up was to prove that I wasn't a goat being led by you, I was just trying to prove my independence.

[Jeff Probst]

Okay, and last but certainly not least. A woman who stole all of our hearts,

Miss Candice!

[Candice]

Hey you 3! It's a pleasure to see you all again and I wish you the best of luck tonight. Nothing but good thoughts for all 3 of you. I did not want to be booted, but I think you all should have booted me so no hard feelings at all toward any of you going into tonight.

I'm not really interested in a generic answer on a generic question, so I've tailored each question how I think it best suits your personality. Hey, at least you don't have to worry that you might not answer the question better than your opponent. So, let's get on with it, shall we?


Penner

Hello, handsome. It's nice to see you again, looking all bright-eyed and bushy tailed and not the least bit hungover. It's a good look for you. But as you told me on more than one occasion, you're not just a pretty face. And you've told us tonight about your accomplishments. All about the power of the Penner mind. What I want you to tell me about now is your luck.

Come on, this should not suprise you. Aren't you blessed with the luck of the Irish, my friend, or is that just an ole wives tale about luck and how the Irish always seem to find it. Tonight, you need to tell me what was the point in the game where you got luckiest. I personally know without a doubt when that was for you. I want to know if you know.




Rocky

Hey kiddo. Good to see you again tonight. Don't discount your game because you think others will. You did a lot right to get here and I always appreciated how you kept up conversation with me even if we were never really in each other's plans.

So I'm curious ... You told me when we were just shooting the shit one day that an ideal dream job for you would be some kind of undercover spy/superhero type job. You know -- Batman with the cool-as-fuck car. I can just see you now -- A PT Cruiser by day, the bat mobile by night. So tell me, what was at least one undercover mission you had this game? Name one time when you were playing a spy, reporting back to others what was really going on and then taking note so you'd look like a hero by game's end?




STACY

Girl, first I just want to say I'm so glad we connected late game. I really appreciated our talks and that you never slapped me for being too gamebotty . Now on to your question.

You have made it a career to go into health law. Just the thought of it gives me a headache BTW (so don't do anthing where easy access to aspirins might be at risk .) And in doing so, you are going to be exposed to many issues related to the ethical and social aspects shaping your field of study. So what I want you to do for me during the FTC is tell me one ethical issue that you thought you might have strayed into the gray, whether it be something like forwarding a PM, possibly doctoring a forwarded PM, outright lying to someone about your intentions, etc. One ethical issue where you were on the wrong side of what is ethically acceptable. And then tell me one effective social issue where you were really strong. It can be from S1.0, M2.0, M3.0 or the merge. I don't care. But one really strong social bond that you are proud of and that was "real" and not fake to get you further in this game.

[Rocky]

ROCKY:
Did you play the game how you wanted to play it? If not, how would you change it? If so, what could have been done differently...unless you consider how you played the absolute correct choice. I mean, you made the final 3 so it clearly wasn't a terrible choice.


NAHHH no way. If it was up to me, Flicka and Stephannie absolutely wouldn't have left first and second at the merge. I also would've tried to convince Rebecca to not ditch the game if she responded to my messages :( I wouldn't have vouched for Nate to leave when he did either. My plan was to clearly keep the people who trusted me around. My issue was that... they didn't stick around haha. Such is life!

So I adapted, and thats what I'm pursuing at this final tribal council. I changed my game accordingly, adjusted my attitude accordingly, and I worked any avenue I could. Jessica, you know as well as I do that I was trying HARD to get a longterm plan going with you, girlie. If I was saying that my game was the cleanest and the easiest, then that'd be a lie. I feel like what I did is just as impressive as owning the game, and the game I'm trying to pitch is similar to that of Natalie White, in that I merged without numbers and without influence and had to set up NEW relationships. A strategy that I feel no one else in this game accomplished, and a strategy that I feel is more impressive then Penner's, considering the fact that Penner merged with not only majority, but also 2-3 easy votes to give himself an easy few rounds of not having to worry in the game. I never caught a break like that, EVER, and I still got as far as Penner did.

[Penner]

Hello, handsome. It's nice to see you again, looking all bright-eyed and bushy tailed and not the least bit hungover. It's a good look for you. But as you told me on more than one occasion, you're not just a pretty face. And you've told us tonight about your accomplishments. All about the power of the Penner mind. What I want you to tell me about now is your luck.

Come on, this should not suprise you. Aren't you blessed with the luck of the Irish, my friend, or is that just an ole wives tale about luck and how the Irish always seem to find it. Tonight, you need to tell me what was the point in the game where you got luckiest. I personally know without a doubt when that was for you. I want to know if you know.

Hey Candice :D Who said I'm not hungover??

I am definitely one lucky guy. I was lucky that the start of this game so happened to coincide with a two-week break from work. I've never been able to play an ORG before and I probably won't get the opportunity to do it again.

I can think of two times - firstly, the Mookie vote-out I really had absolutely no idea what was going on. I had put all my efforts into convincing Anthony not to play his idol that when he did, I realised I hadn't properly figured out what the backup plan would be. It's fairly possible that you were all planning to vote me out and that it was a very close-run thing.

Secondly, I had an inkling that when Rebecca left at final five, I wasn't really safe that round. With you winning immunity (which ended up being an advantage in the next round) I think I was the obvious target. I had hoped I'd be able to convince you and Rebecca to vote somebody else out, but I figured my chances were fairly slim in that regard. If I was saved by Rebecca leaving, fair play to you guys, because while I suspected that's what people should have done, everyone kept up the act the whole day without me having any evidence to suggest that's what the plan was.

[Penner]

I wouldn't have vouched for Nate to leave when he did either

I know it's probably a bit rude to keep jumping in on your answers, but what do you mean by this part? You voted for Stacy to leave and didn't realise Nate was going home until he was gone. Or do you just mean that you'd prefer he hadn't gone home?

[Rocky]

[b]Hey kiddo. Good to see you again tonight. Don't discount your game because you think others will. You did a lot right to get here and I always appreciated how you kept up conversation with me even if we were never really in each other's plans.

So I'm curious ... You told me when we were just shooting the shit one day that an ideal dream job for you would be some kind of undercover spy/superhero type job. You know -- Batman with the cool-as-fuck car. I can just see you now -- A PT Cruiser by day, the bat mobile by night. So tell me, what was at least one undercover mission you had this game? Name one time when you were playing a spy, reporting back to others what was really going on and then taking note so you'd look like a hero by game's end?[b]

This is actually tough, I'm having a hard time citing a time when I would report to people. I really dont want to give a nonanswer though haha. A lot of my game was mostly... collecting information for my own personal gauge. A lot of information I recieved was for my ears only, and I can't name a time when I became gossip central unless it has to do with like general information, such as the Cici vote, the Cass vote, etc

My missions would be me going to people but I would only really report to my confessional. I wouldn't tell Lil what I found out, I wouldn't tell Penner, or Nate. I would occasionally say something about what I heard, but it was usually THE round that person was leaving anyways. I always, entirely, was trying to gain trust by simply telling people what I know and trying to downtalk my social relationships with everyone. IF anything, my missions were me LIEING to people about my relationships. For example, I was actually very close to Jessica, and I really liked her as a person, but I didn't share it around too much because I knew she was a constant target and I tried to ditch the constant targets, such as my former tribe.

I would say the my biggest mission would be our alliance Candice, with you, me, Penner, Rebecca, and Lil in hopes to achieve a coup of sorts. I knew it wasn't going to last. Candice, remember when I asked you about how you felt about the perception of it being 3 and 2? I KNEW you fellas wouldn't stick with us, also partially the reason why I asked if it was Lil's time when she left. I knew what was happnening, verified with people about the vote, and then continued to have relationships with people like Nate and Jessica to make sure I was still in a good spot after the vote. I wasn't a vote goat, going along with the strategies and saying "fuck it", I was doing everything to adapt and ensure I wasn't next - and I was NEVER next.

[Rocky]

I wouldn't have vouched for Nate to leave when he did either

I know it's probably a bit rude to keep jumping in on your answers, but what do you mean by this part? You voted for Stacy to leave and didn't realise Nate was going home until he was gone. Or do you just mean that you'd prefer he hadn't gone home?

No worries, I can always clarify.I would've preferred he hadn't gone home.