Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Stacy » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:23:57 pm

Jeff Probst wrote:So does anyone want to admit to feeling vulnerable?


I'll throw my hat in on this too. Maybe not this week, but I am probably one of those threats that some people don't want to be sitting beside at the end. I think, like you said last week, some people are determined to get to the end with the people they think they can beat but, like you said, that still might not be enough.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:24:10 pm

Rebecca, do you believe that you have a shot at winning this game and why is the answer not no?
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jessica » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:24:39 pm

Tonight might be my last night as a player in this game. I may have been beaten tonight, as Nate defeated me in that competition fair and square. That being said, I should point out that Nate has won as many merge immunities as I have, almost reaching a fourth had he not messed up in the Numb3r5 challenge.

I have to ask everyone before tonight, when was the last time any of us considered targeting Nate? Never! He's been playing a viciously amazing UTR game so far. He has been so socially adept at this game, that a lot of people here consider him a close ally right now. Including myself! In fact, Nate myself and Stacy had a final 3 deal that had seemed to continue until this very day. The thing is, Nate was quick to switch around and attempt to betray us. He claims it's because I'll be getting him out soon and because I am probably the bigger threat. I, however, disagree.

In the competition tonight the majority of you all agreed that the jury dislikes me the most. I have probably angered every single member of that jury to a point where I doubt I'd get a single vote, except maybe out of pity. Yet everyone agrees I'm the threat to beat. Sure I may have won challenges, but as Candice said in the last council it doesn't mean much more than having a fast connection.

If y'all choose to get rid of me tonight, you are actively setting in motion for Nate to win this game. He has the numbers right now to win. At least, that's what I saw when Rocky sent me a group message saying that I was the target and Stacy the replacement.

Maybe a lot of people here think that I'll beat them in the finals, but I can nearly guarantee that the scenario probably won't happen. And as it stands right now, without me Nate probably has the best chance of winning the immunities remaining. If you get rid of me tonight you might be getting rid of your chance to make it to the end. I'm not asking for any of you to trust me, but I will be damned if I let this game end with Nate and two goats.

No offense, Rebecca, but I believe we need to eliminate you, and focus on getting rid of Nate and then maybe me. Y'all have the numbers to do that. Hell, become an alliance of 4 and just sweep us away until the end. All I'm asking is that you don't let Nate dominate the rest of this game by sending me out tonight. He already has two idol clues.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Stephannie » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:24:58 pm

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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:25:07 pm

Stacy wrote:
Jeff Probst wrote:So does anyone want to admit to feeling vulnerable?


I'll throw my hat in on this too. Maybe not this week, but I am probably one of those threats that some people don't want to be sitting beside at the end. I think, like you said last week, some people are determined to get to the end with the people they think they can beat but, like you said, that still might not be enough.

So Stacy, not everyone here can be in the end of the game, so my question is, why aren't the perceived threats banding together to give themselves a shot at the finals? Is it that some people are unaware that they are a threat to be taken out in the future?
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Penner » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:26:09 pm

Who are the goats, Jessica?
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Nate » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:26:43 pm

Really? Did you not also have final 3s with Penner, Candice, Cecilia, Cassandra and like half of the jury at one point?

Also, I've only won two, you've won three + a million tribal council immunity challenges

also inb4 she tries the ole Stranded "oh look i found the idol" gambit
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Flicka » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:26:44 pm

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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:27:15 pm

Jessica wrote:Tonight might be my last night as a player in this game. I may have been beaten tonight, as Nate defeated me in that competition fair and square. That being said, I should point out that Nate has won as many merge immunities as I have, almost reaching a fourth had he not messed up in the Numb3r5 challenge.

I have to ask everyone before tonight, when was the last time any of us considered targeting Nate? Never! He's been playing a viciously amazing UTR game so far. He has been so socially adept at this game, that a lot of people here consider him a close ally right now. Including myself! In fact, Nate myself and Stacy had a final 3 deal that had seemed to continue until this very day. The thing is, Nate was quick to switch around and attempt to betray us. He claims it's because I'll be getting him out soon and because I am probably the bigger threat. I, however, disagree.

In the competition tonight the majority of you all agreed that the jury dislikes me the most. I have probably angered every single member of that jury to a point where I doubt I'd get a single vote, except maybe out of pity. Yet everyone agrees I'm the threat to beat. Sure I may have won challenges, but as Candice said in the last council it doesn't mean much more than having a fast connection.

If y'all choose to get rid of me tonight, you are actively setting in motion for Nate to win this game. He has the numbers right now to win. At least, that's what I saw when Rocky sent me a group message saying that I was the target and Stacy the replacement.

Maybe a lot of people here think that I'll beat them in the finals, but I can nearly guarantee that the scenario probably won't happen. And as it stands right now, without me Nate probably has the best chance of winning the immunities remaining. If you get rid of me tonight you might be getting rid of your chance to make it to the end. I'm not asking for any of you to trust me, but I will be damned if I let this game end with Nate and two goats.

No offense, Rebecca, but I believe we need to eliminate you, and focus on getting rid of Nate and then maybe me. Y'all have the numbers to do that. Hell, become an alliance of 4 and just sweep us away until the end. All I'm asking is that you don't let Nate dominate the rest of this game by sending me out tonight. He already has two idol clues.

So Jessica, you are saying you are a threat and should be eliminated, and also that Nate is a threat who needs to be eliminated.

my question is, if you and Nate are going to both be taken out for being threats, why not try to work together?

I'm finding it hard to believe that these cards are all on the table and no one is doing anything about them...
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Rebecca » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:27:28 pm

Jeff, how exactly is it a good idea to start naming all the reasons you believe you'd win right in front of the other players?
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Liliana » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:27:30 pm

Jessica wrote:I have to ask everyone before tonight, when was the last time any of us considered targeting Nate? Never!


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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:27:48 pm

Nate, do you think after Jessica, you will be taken out for being a threat, or will you be taken to the end?
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Penner » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:28:13 pm

Liliana wrote:
Jessica wrote:I have to ask everyone before tonight, when was the last time any of us considered targeting Nate? Never!


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He got two votes in literally the last tribal council. Never is a bit of a stretch.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Stacy » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:28:19 pm

Jeff Probst wrote:Stacy, who do you think would be the 4 biggest threats in the game that people would most likely try to knock out before teh finals?


I think everyone thinks Jessica and Candice are two of them.
But like I said last week, everyone has a shot of winning this and no one knows how the jury will think. The jury hates Jessica and isn't Candice's biggest fan, so maybe they're the best people to bring because the jury would rather vote for anyone but them. As we saw from the challenge tonight, Penner got the most votes for person that people trust with their life. Does that translate to the fact that he'll get lots of votes? Rocky and Nate have both won multiple immunity challenges, does that make them a threat? Nate is also a hardcore strategizer so does that make him a threat? Rebecca has plenty of friends on the jury so does that make her a threat? And I've helped Jess, Candice, Nate and Penner with big moves like getting rid of CiCi and Cass. So does that make me one of them? It's an impossible question to answer Jeff, but if you want four names: Jessica, Candice, Rebecca and Nate are the ones I think are most likely to win this game at this point.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:28:30 pm

Rebecca wrote:Jeff, how exactly is it a good idea to start naming all the reasons you believe you'd win right in front of the other players?

Rebecca, from my perspective, adn it's only that, you have been voted as the biggest goat and I think now is a good time for you to be trying to make some points to win becuase i'm not sure anyone sees any.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Nate » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:28:38 pm

Jeff Probst wrote:Nate, do you think after Jessica, you will be taken out for being a threat, or will you be taken to the end?


idk the fact that I was excluded from the Jessica and Candice "threat alliance" tells me otherwise.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:29:19 pm

Votes are due in 10 minutes.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jessica » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:29:41 pm

Penner wrote:Who are the goats, Jessica?


Rebecca and you. Penner, I believe you've been playing a good game, otherwise you wouldn't have gotten so far, but I'm sure a lot of the jury would see your lack of activity in the beginning as goat-like.

We've talked about how you feel you aren't a goat, and I totally agree that after the last councils, you have proven to me you aren't one. And maybe you aren't in Nate's eyes either. Maybe Rocky is. I consider your game social and more UTR than challenge-orientated, but that's because I've been playing with you. All i know is that at least one goat remains...and the longer she does the worse everyone has to make it to the end.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Jeff Probst » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:30:17 pm

Well one thing is for sure, 4 of you will be sitting on that jury after the next 4 councils and wishing you had aligned tonight. Those 4 people are most likely the biggest threats to win.
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Re: Day 26 - Tribal Council #12

Postby Penner » Mon Sep 07, 2015 9:30:22 pm

Can I ask a general question, does the jury actually value comp wins? Is someone's ability to post a bunch of images in the fastest time possible actually a good measure of who should win?

I always thought immunity comps were a way to get further when your strategy and social game failed.
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