Episode 07

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Episode 07

Postby Jeff Varner » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:05:10 pm

Hey Stephannie, congratulations on making the merge!

Tell me how you're feeling about making it this far, and what your plan is now that all of you are in one big tribe. How are you going to survive this next vote? How are you going to win the game?

In other words, size up your chances and size up your tribemates for us.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 9:08:11 pm

Jeff Varner wrote:Hey Stephannie, congratulations on making the merge!

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For a while I didn't think it was going to happen because of how the numbers were divided at the swap, but here I am!!! icon_wub


I'm worried Jessica will be gunning for me because I lied to her (twice) but the best I can do is form some strong bonds this round and see what happens!
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:17:20 pm

we're still just starting the merge but I feel like I'm in a good position as of right now.

Candice offered me working with her, Penner, and Cassandra.
Then there's the trio of me, Rebecca, and Flicka.
then there's the group with me, Flicka, Liliana, and Rocky
Then there's Cecilia who I was #1 allies with on Svinoy 1.0... (apparently Cecilia wants to work with Jessica though...)

So that means I'm potentially aligned with: Penner, Candice, Cassandra, Rebecca, Flicka, Liliana, Rocky, and Cecilia... which only leaves 3 people I'm not in some way aligned with unless I did my math wrong.
Two if I count Jessica (but I'm not so sure about her... probably not)

Which only leaves Stacy (apparently she never even PM's) and Nate.


So hopefully people don't catch on, but from my perspective I'm sitting in a good position right now.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 10:55:15 pm

I honestly do want to work with Jessica and Cecilia... but like... I feel like they're going to want me to go after my Svinoy 2.0 four-person alliance... which I'm not so sure about.
Flicka is someone I can 100% trust.

But at the same time, I do really like Penner/Cassandra/Candice, so I feel like I do have some wiggle room with where I vote.

I would just feel awful voting out Flicka after all we've done for each other in this game.

So I'm not too sure what to expect down the road.


No talks of boots yet, but I think I'm getting to be on good terms with people in the tribe.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:39:07 pm

so I went onto ORGY and noticed one season had the jury start at FINAL 11 where Katie made the merge but not the jury and I am FREAKING OUT about the possibility of that happening to me icon_sick

I just need to focus, though, and stick to what's going on in the game.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:05:45 am

Cecilia told me that I'm not allowed to hear information about her alliance because I need to "Rank Up" to be allowed to be told stuff from her?
Girl fucking please.

The only reason I wanted to get back to Cecilia is because SHE'S SOMEONE I COULD TRUST, so if she's just going to be like, "You're with us but you're not allowed to know anything" then I'll just go back to people who I actually trust 100% right now: Flicka, and kind of Rebecca to an extent.


But at the same time, taking a back seat for a few rounds could lower my threat status... though I really don't think that's how I want to approach this.


Tough I still have that thought in the back of my head of "what if jury doesnt start until f11 and not f12 like I thought?" and that just adds another level of stress to this upcoming vote.


going to bed now and will work the late shift tomorrow... I'm hoping I can be back in time for the challenge.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Thu Aug 27, 2015 2:06:40 am

also I'll answer those questions tomorrow before I go to work.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:41:55 pm

I reserve a special place of dislike in my heart for people who are good at challenges in ORG's.
Jessica now immune 3 times in a row?

next she's going to tell everyone how she's "good at the game" because of it. Please.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:43:46 pm

also Candice randomly drops out the moment after I do...? suspicious. icon_sick
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Thu Aug 27, 2015 10:38:14 pm

sometimes I love my works schedule because it gives me a lot of time to sleep in and days off... but other times when my shifts go late and I work the next day it REALLY interferes with being able to keep up in this game.

i.e. If I wanted to get the optimal hours of sleep for work tomorrow, I would have had to go to bed 30 minutes ago... obviously that didn't happen. So I think I'm going to hop off boards for a bit and let my brain settle itself before I go to sleep.

Every time I'm PM'ing before I go to bed I'm lying awake for an hour or so running scenarios... so I need to take some time to mellow down before I go to sleep.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:11:21 am

I really need to get in good with the "big players" on the other side, because everything says they'll just want to get rid of me right away.

We're coming in as a group of 4 with me, Flicka, Liliana, Rocky... I feel people could easily just form a group of 8 and go after us... me first because I'm viewed as the "biggest threat" or "leader" of that group for being the most active, attending all challenges, and surviving two tribals despite publicly taking that necklace.

(which is why Candice suspiciously lost the challenge right after me? Was there some sort of deal going on that was: "Just make sure Stephannie doesn't win"?)

I think right now it seems like I should try to get "the other side" to go after Liliana and then try to really blur those tribal lines.



I was doing some thinking, and I've been away from the "power players" most of the game: Cecilia, Penner, Candice, Cassandra, and then Jessica... who I was away from on Svinoy 2.0, and the only time I was with her, I went against her.
So I really need to make sure they don't all just agree to get rid of me... I feel like I may be the only public "power player" not on that side of the numbers, so this is an important tribal.


(btw when I say "power player" I mean people who are viewed as obvious big/active players by everyone else. For all we know Flicka/Rebecca/etc. could be huge UTR power players behind the scenes, but I wouldn't call them "public power players" because they aren't viewed as threats by most people from what I've seen).
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Fri Aug 28, 2015 10:07:08 pm

it's so frustrating to have an ally tell me to "lay low" and "if you try anything too much you'll go home" because like... why should I trust someone else to hold my entire fate in the game in their hands?

How do I know Cecilia is actually going to pull through for me? It's really not my playstyle at all... and I'll be annoyed if it's what causes me to go home. But I do sort of trust what she's saying...? I know my name is most definitely being thrown out, and I like to think she really is looking out for me.

So hopefully things all work out... because like I said it's really frustrating to have information withheld from me and only to know that "I'm a target" and that "If I try anything I'll go home"
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Fri Aug 28, 2015 11:30:49 pm

as I said I don't like other people holding information over my head... an annoying side-effect of being on the "less game-dominant" tribe two swaps in a row... (i.e. me being without the "big gameplayers" like Cassandra, Penner, Candice, and Cecilia).

So now from the sounds if it based on what Cecilia said, there's some sort of big hierarchy and "plan" set up... I hate not knowing. Because I like to be the one at the top of those kinds of things. It makes me feel in control.

Though honestly I don't have the numbers... I could try to brute-force it with me, Flicka, Rebecca, Rocky, Liliana... that's 5. We would have to rope in two more people.
The only person I could think would be Stacy since Candice/Penner/Cassandra/Cecilia seem to be all intertwined somehow, Jessica obviously won't work with us, and I think Nate is with Cecilia/Jessica/etc... so that leaves Stacy, who I've suspected for a while is acting like a pawn for Jessica right now.

So honestly I feel like if I want to guarantee my safety, I need to run to the other side... at least for now. Let them use me as a pawn for a couple rounds. I hate doing it, but I feel like I don't have a ton of options if I don't flip over somehow.
Ideally after surviving these early merge tribal councils, I'll no longer be just a cog in the wheel for an alliance... (an alliance Cecilia won't even tell me the members of?)

Alternatively I could out Cecilia, because she told me she wants to get rid of Hestur down the line.
i.e. I could go to Candice/Penner/Cassandra and tell them Jessica/Cecilia are going after them... but I don't think that's a good idea. I don't know how that whole alliance works, and I could end up doing nothing but killing the trust I have with Cecilia and going home....
And from what Cecilia is saying it sounds like she really needs me as a number for whatever plan she has to go through.

So ya, as I said I'm going to let them treat me as a "pawn"/"free vote"/etc. for this round and maybe the next round... I need a feel for the dynamics of the tribe and how things are going.
At that point hopefully I'll be able to make some impactful moves of my own. My playstyle is that I'm the deciding vote in the majority of tribals... I won't like it if I'm just going to mindlessly follow somebody for the rest of the game.

I'm going to suck it up and do that for this round at least... but it won't last.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:16:56 am

Tell me how you're feeling about making it this far, and what your plan is now that all of you are in one big tribe.
Well I'm feeling great about making the merge! For a while I thought that I was "destined to be pre-merge" just by fate which is why I worked my ASS OFF to get here, and I'm ecstatic that it happened.
Now the one thing I'm worried about is being the first merge boot, because it's an ambiguous land where nobody knows for certain if they're going to be jury or pre-jury... such a terrifying point in the game icon_no
My plan? Well I feel like one of my strengths in this game is "getting to be a well-liked and powerful member in big groups" as shown by how the Svinoy 1.0 tribe went... but the only "power player" I was on a tribe with since the first tribe was Jessica... and we were "enemies" in a way... so all the "power players" know each other and have spent a significant time in the game together, and I'm coming from Svinoy with a lot more underestimated or less active players...
So all the people I'd normally be aligned with with this many people left in the game are people who were all together on the other tribe... so I'm really going to have to work harder than ever to get them on my side and to get in good with them.

I'm NOT going to sit here and complain about numbers/swaps/etc. though. I watched Kass's ET interview today and she talked about how the whole time in Cagayan she was on the bottom and managed to make it to 3rd place.
Being on the bottom isn't the style of game I like to play, but I'm going to have to navigate myself through this merge with what I come into it with. I'm here, so I can't complain.

How are you going to survive this next vote? How are you going to win the game?
Apparently I'm already a target... but this isn't my first time entering a new tribe as public enemy #1 and turning things around. I've done it before in this game and I can do it again now.
I had a great relationship with Cecilia on Svinoy 1.0 (though, as I said, I never FULLY trusted her because I know she's a strong gameplayer who is ultimately looking out for herself just like how I'm looking out for myself) but I think she's telling me the truth with what she's saying...
Cassandra and that crew view me as a threat. I fully understand why. I'm coming in with a perceived alliance of 4, and whatever Jessica is inevitably saying isn't helping either. I'm sure people don't want that Svinoy 2.0 foursome to last very long in this merge, so they're going to try to split it up... I think I'm viewed as the "biggest threat" or even the "leader" of that group.
I honestly don't see Svinoy 2.0 being successful numbers-wise... if we bring Rebecca back with us we'd still need two more votes, and I honestly don't think there are two people who would be willing to flip over to us.

So I'm going to take Cecilia's advice. I'm going to lay low, and I'm going to sit down and offer myself as an extra vote to whoever needs it. Ideally it will buy me a round or two of safety before I can start shaking things up again.
From the sounds of it Cassandra is kind of "running the show" right now, so I'm going to really suck up to her and try to let her know that it would benefit her game to keep me around... how it would benefit her game? I'm not so sure. But I'm trying to just tell her what she wants to hear and hopefully it warms her up to me (because I heard she mentioned voting me off... I think her mind can be changed).

I'm not going to make it obvious what I'm doing because then it wouldn't work... I just need to subtly convince her that I should be kept over someone like Liliana (though may be hard because I heard Cassandra and Liliana were tight before the first swap).


How am I going to win the game?
Well I think I have a pretty good resume so far, and if I survive these early merge rounds without scratches it would turn from a good resume into a great resume in my opinion... then I need to just navigate myself to the end and plead my case.
Ideally I'll keep the personal bonds I have even after having to vote them off... which is tough, and I know that's the whole point of the game! So I'm going to have to be careful if I go through with backstabbing someone like Liliana this round... and backstabbing other people in the future.
I'd probably want to go to the end with someone like Flicka?
Or even Cecilia. I feel like if I vote out Cecilia she'd be mad at me and wouldn't give me her jury vote... and I definitely think I could plead a better case for myself to win than she could. At least right now.
Though I KNOW Cecilia probably wouldn't let me get to the end... so I probably do have to get rid of her even though we call each other our "#1 allies!" ...probably need to get her out before she gets me out... it will feel awful, but if I want to win it's probably what I have to do.

But I'm thinking too far forward right now. I need to survive this round before I can think of next round... and so on. I can't say "oh I may have to vote Cecilia out at final 6," because I still have to find out how I'm going to get to final 6 in the first place, y'know?




In other words, size up your chances and size up your tribemates for us.
I think my chances will go way up if I survive these early merge votes. But I am still terrified of my threat status combined with the old tribal lines. It's easy for people to just band together and get rid of me if they see me as "the Svinoy 2.0 leader" so I need to shake that and survive...
I think laying low and "doing the bidding" of some of these bigger players for a couple rounds will help them forget about me possibly? At least that's what I'm planning.

Sum up my tribemates? I guess I'll do a ranking on chance to win the game and then do a little comment about each... (without including myself).

1. Penner. I think he's really in a good spot unless Cecilia's crackpot plan goes through. He is a really likeable person, and is placed well in the game. He's in control but I don't think a lot of people are wanting him out yet.
2. Candice. She's in a good spot and good with PM's, but I think she stands out more than Penner as a threat just because she isn't as good at the social game (imo). I find her less likeable and so I think people would find it easier to blindside her and she'd have a tougher time stopping it than Penner.
3. Cecilia. She's a big player, and I've said enough about her already. She has a plan to take down the Hestur people so I think she definitely has a shot
4. Cassandra. In with Candice and Penner, but I think she's way too much of "the godfather" right now... she's the obvious "runner-of-the-show" and people are going to catch on fast. She may be in charge for a couple rounds, but her downfall is coming.
5. Jessica. I can't see any of the other big players wanting to keep her around at all... her social game is okay, but it's good enough to set off "threat! threat! threat!" alarms to everyone. Plus she is constantly winning immunity challenges. I'm not sure if she's well-connected enough to last past the early merge, and I feel she's in danger if she doesn't win immunity.
6. Nate. He could definitely be a wildcard in this, and he's sitting on the right side of the numbers right now. He isn't talking much game with me so I don't have a good read, but I definitely think he is still a contender.
7. Rebecca. If she can make it to the end somehow, I think she could have a bit of a story... people are starting to warm up to her, and she could tell a good underdog story. I feel like people would get too hot-headed to respect her game at all. I'd imagine a lot of "*I* PLAYED THE GAME! YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE THERE!" comments at her if she makes FTC
8. Flicka. She could go unnoticed as a non-threat for a while and maybe make it to the end. I think she's less respected than Flicka despite making a lot of moves... I worry that even if she pleaded her case, people would already make their minds up that she "doesn't deserve it" ...they've been talking all game so far about how she's bad at the game, so that mentality probably won't change unless something HUGE happens... and even then, first impressions are hard to shake for some people.
9. Liliana. Too threatening, already deemed "untrustworthy," and on the wrong side of the numbers. Plus she may have been busy at the time, but on Svinoy 2.0 and Svinoy 3.0 she didn't strike me as a strong PM'er, so I don't know what her chances would be at convincing people to keep her around. She may plead a good case if she makes it to the end, but I can't see her making it there.
10. Rocky. Similar to Liliana, but in my opinion he has a better social game (at least he has better personal one-on-one conversations with me). But he's quieter than Liliana, so people may respect him less if he makes it to the end.
11. Stacy. I keep forgetting she's still in the game. I've heard from people that she only shows up right before a challenge and then sends PM's then, and leaves. I've only heard from her twice since the merge. (Though we are having a surprisingly good conversation). Unless she picks things up, she's going to get people saying "Why is Stacy still in the game? She's never here," more and more the longer the game goes on.


That's my projection on the merge tribe and everyone's chances to win.
I think I would place myself either right below Jessica or right below Nate on the list. As much as I'd like to say I have more of a chance at winning than Jessica, as it stands now it looks like she has numbers.
If (girl why do I keep saying 'if'? ...) ~WHEN~ I survive these early rounds, I trust that if I re-calibrate my tribal size-up I'll be a lot closer to the top icon_yes
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:29:20 am

So Flicka is telling me the plan is that everyone wants to vote off me, and then Liliana next... so I think my best chances is to have that target switch to Liliana first. It will give me more time to scramble and it will remove my public "Svinoy 2.0 leader" title.

I just hope I don't cause Flicka/Rocky/Liliana to feel betrayed in the process and then they just all vote me and I'm gone.

Flicka thinks the best course of action is to just stick to the Svinoy 2.0 people meaning me, her, Rocky, Liliana, Rebecca... but as I said before I'm really weary in who we'd be able to get on our side.

I want to work with Flicka later in the game, so I'm worried that she won't be on board with me ensuring Liliana is the target to keep myself safe... idk.

I just hate hearing that everyone wants me out right now icon_no
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 12:53:02 am

Flicka just told me Cecilia and Jessica were telling her to "vote with the group" against the Svinoy 2.0 people.
i.e. if I hear that Cecilia is secretly campaigning against me and has been lying this whole time, I'm outing her at tribal.


if only Flicka didn't just log off... icon_no
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:25:53 am

So Cecilia will tell Flicka that she's aligned with Nate, Stacy, and Jessica but she won't tell me even though I'm supposedly her "#1 ally!"


GIRL.
FUCKING.
PLEASE.

Cecilia better walk on fucking eggshells in her strategy this round and how she handles me. The PM she sent Flicka could still be interpreted as trying to protect me... because she is still saying it's me or Liliana... but like. Girl.

It seems like she wants it to be: Jessica, Cecilia, Nate, Stacy, Rebecca... and Flicka? So that's a group of 6. She told me she wanted me to rope in Rebecca at final 10.

She thinks she has this whole thing figured out but it's a fucking simple-ass plan. I'll go over it in the next post to keep things clear.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:29:07 am

Cecilia's plan: Vote out two Svinoy 2.0 members to get to the final 10.

Then she has her alliance at f10: Cecilia, Jessica, Nate, Stacy, (Me/Flicka), Rebecca... i.e. a group of 6. SHE DOESN'T NEED ME so I think she may just be stringing me along.
She only needs 6, and she needs one of the Svinoy 2.0 people to rope Rebecca in... she's honestly better off taking Flicka instead of me and she knows that.
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:33:28 am

So her plan is to just pick off the next two Svinoy 2.0 people along with Cassandra. Candice, and Penner and bring herself to the final 6 with her, Stacy (goat), Rebecca (goat), Jessica (threat she'll ask people to vote out in place of her), Nate (goat), Flicka (goat).


If she isn't sincere in actually saving me, I am slipping this plan to Candice. Cassandra, and Penner and asking people to vote her ass off at tribal. I'll ask for Flicka to be a bit of a spy for me there...

FUCK!!!!!!!! I let it slip to Cecilia that Flicka was leaking me info... hopefully that doesn't mess that plan up for me.



But if I find out Cecilia is still gunning for me, it's done.
I could get Flicka to ask any of Stacy, Nate, or Jessica... if they say they're voting me and it's close to tribal, Cecilia is done. I'm blowing up her plan.

And if it doesn't save me, at least it exposes her for trying to use everyone and control the game (and lie to me calling me her "#1 ally").
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Re: Episode 07

Postby Stephannie » Sat Aug 29, 2015 1:49:15 am

All I have to do is tell the Hestur people that Cecilia needs two Svinoy people voted out and then she has free reign to eliminate Hestur one after another.

I don't know if they'd buy it, and it's too early for me to do it now.

I need to do it at a time where it won't get back to her.

OR I could just blurt it all out during tribal icon_whistling
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